Hippity Hoppity Grease-ters on Its Way!

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LOL!! Get it? Hippity Hoppity onto the bandwagon;)? Okay, this is just a quick post to tell you that I hit ShopRite on Monday to re-up on my Biotin and the vitamins happen to be in the same aisle as the “ethnic” hair care section. My sister had just tweeted me that morning with, “I twisted w/Blue Magic Coconut Oil Hair Conditioner aka grease. Hair is def soft. Petrolatum. Coconut Oil. Fragrance.” Now, I still couldn’t get down with blue colored grease (I later found that the “blue” is in name only;). But, I remembered months ago reading a hair icon story on BGLH about a woman with gorgeous hair who used hemp grease on her scalp and hair (despite digging for an hour or more yesterday for that story, I couldn’t find it!!). Back then, I was intrigued, but never got around to looking any further into this. However, I did find a post on CurlyNikki about Hemp Seed Oil that I remember reading back in May.

Also, if you remember, I also often refer people to this article on NaturallyCurly.com, Mineral Oil Versus Coconut Oil: Which is Better? This article helped inform my choice in using coconut oil as a pre-poo. However, if you’ve ever read it, it also talks about the superior performance of mineral oil over coconut oil as a clumping agent and as an anti-humectant due to its ability to maintain “capillary adhesion,” (i.e. it makes the hairs stay stuck to each other!). Coconut oil is able to do this initially, but because of its ability to penetrate into the cortex, which is a great benefit for pre-pooing and moisturizing, it does not remain on the surface of the hair. Therefore, the hair separates from the clumps and water from the air (aka humidity) is able to penetrate the cuticle, which can result in frizz and fly away hair.

You may have noticed, I’m not one to vilify too many practices or products. I just try to tell you about what works for me or things that I’ve learned via my research or just from first hand experience. So, some of you may remember that I used grease for years in my WnGs. I would mix it with gel to provide softness and “moisture,” while the gel provided hold. I now realize that the water and gel were my moisture and the grease was my sealant. Now, I was never a Dax, Ultra Sheen or Blue Magic type of gal. TCB was my lube of choice. I started with the regular kind, but it would leave Soul Glo halos on my leather car headrest that would collect dust and dirt! So, I had to make certain to wipe it down so I wasn’t re-depositing muck in my fresh hair!

Eventually I came upon TCB lite, which had an almost jelly like consistency and was a lot lighter.

And I used that for a while too, but it still had that slightly greasy residue that came off on my hands when I touched my hair and lingered on any place that I rested my head. Then, my youngest sister e-mails me about this new product line, Carol’s Daughter. It’s all natural and created/owned by an African-American woman. So, I hit the world-wide web and try to find out if there are any local retailers. This was in 2002 as those old pics that I shared with you here are from the same summer that I found CD’s Healthy Hair Butter, Mimosa Hair Honey and Tui Hair Smoothie at a small, independent Black-owned boutique in Montclair, NJ named, “Dem Two Hands.” I remember I tried the Mimosa Hair Honey/gel mix first. Although I loved the smell of the Hair Honey, it still left me with the same “grease” problem, oily residue. But it was great for my scalp. So then, I moved on to the Healthy Hair Butter. BINGO!! Now THIS was just what I’d been seeking … a product that provided moisture for my WnG without being heavy, greasy or leaving its “mark” on everything it touched, including my hands and collar! And that was that. So grease fell into my past many years ago. However, it was not because of the mineral oil, petrolatum debate … those were “happy” coincidences … I’d just found a replacement that did what I needed and did it better.

So back to ShopRite (Wow, I said this was going to be a short post [guess that’s just against my nature], but I sure took the long way around to get here, didn’t I?). As I was standing in that aisle, I saw Swiss Jardin Indian Hemp hair dress & conditioner … and decided to give in to my PJ ways and pick it up. The list of ingredients is rather long and I can’t find them online, so I’ll just tell you the first few: Petrolatum, Mineral Oil, Lanolin, Coconut (Cocos Nucefera) Oil, Olive (Olea Europea) Oil, Fragrance, Apocynum Cannibinum Root Extract (Black Indian Hemp). It also has Nettle, Rosemary and Burdock extract. Not bad! The ingredients that I was seeking were definitely mineral oil and hemp and, so we were in business. I also remembered hemp based grease having the little flecks of “earth” in it and this product didn’t disappoint, though I doubt the “grit” is actual hemp! *lol*

Time to wrap this up. So, I tried a little of this last night on my edges before tying my hair down with a scarf. We’ll see if it will help keep my hairline relatively smooth. I definitely won’t be using this on a TnC, but may try a very little tiny bit on a four twist twist out some time soon. I’ll definitely keep you guys updated. For now, I just can’t wait to wash my hair as it’s hitting two weeks now. I’m going to be trying a new technique! It’s from Chicoro’s Grow It!, which I started reading over the weekend and I prepared my hair for the technique last night! I also made a style out of it, which tickles me pink! So, hopefully, I’ll be washing my hair tonight and I’ll have an update for you with my results in the next couple of days!

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Confession time ladies!! Who out there has been contemplating getting some grease and/or has already bought some or dug it out from under the sink since Nikki, “came out?” If you have, which brand is your “poison” of choice? If you’ve tried it already, what’s the verdict?!

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  1. I’ll pass. Grease clogs my pores and leaves nasty stains on my pillows or clothes. Plus, it does nothing for my hair but lubricate it which I’d rather get from a natural light oil.

    One thing I’ve learned is to stop jumping on band wagons because everyone else is. It usually yields disasterous or less alarming…….undesirable results.

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    • I’m with you Michelle. Using grease will make me wash and clarify my hair too often. I’ll stick with my Carols Daughter Some of Marguerites Magic and my natural oils.

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    • ITA. I kept my Blue Magic around for flat iron purposes to keep reversion at bay. Once I realized my Amla and Olive Heavy cream could do that (and now Qhemet’s new twist butter prevents reversion BETTER), I shelved it. The breakouts along my hairline told me to. LOL

      When I used to run out of vaseline, grease was a sealant… on my skin…
      Don’t judge me.

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      • LMBO at “Don’t judge me.” I like to say that too … and whatever works. I’ll take hair grease over being ashy and so dry it hurts;). LMBO!!

        As to using being careful about doing something just because everyone else is, I might try something off of the recommendations of others … if I think that it will work for me. As I already used grease without problems, other than greasiness (lol) and never denounced it as the devil (to be honest, the only thing I ever read/heard about mineral oil was that it was a filler and didn’t provide any real benefit … which was disproven to me a while ago by that article), I don’t really consider myself jumping on the bandwagon. I was already thinking about the hemp grease, the CurlyNikki post just reminded me about it and further enforced that it might be something I could give a try. Again though, I’m still on the fence about how I’ll use it. I wanted to find that icon story to see if she used it on her scalp, because I can’t remember!

        On another note, I have a friend with a baby girl with very soft curls and she tried coconut oil and Vatika oil on her hair at my suggestion. My friend likes it on HER hair, but found that her daughter’s hair still got dry very quickly. So, she started using Dax or Ultra Sheen or one of those on her hair and that works amazingly well, just like Chandra indicated it does on her daughter’s hair. So, I’m on the side of, use what works for you!

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        • Oh and btw, I totally had to look up “ITA.” It was the second time I’d seen it on here in two days. Yesterday, I thought it was a typo! After reading Janay’s comment with it today, I realized it must be some online shorthand which I missed being added to the texting dictionary!! LOL!!

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        • Well for me I’ve seen people jumping on plenty bandwagons because Nikki is doing something or because a bunch of natural are doing something. so it wasn’t meant for any specific person. Right after her post all of a “sudden” everyone posts that they want to try it.

          I too used Dax, Hair Food and all that greasy stuff back in the days and it was horrible for me then so why would i try it now so for me it would be jumping on a bandwagon to try it just because now it’s becoming all the rave again.

          Going forward and this is me personally, I’m no longer trying a bunch of stuff because it’s becoming talked about or even recommended. I believe I’ve found what’s working for my hair so I’m not adding to that. The PJ has died.

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          • Oh and Shelli Thanks for the Vatika and Henna suggests. Glad I jumped on those bandwagons! Those are keepers. They are all I need now along with my conditioners and JBCO products

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            • LMBO in regard to the Vatika and Henna bandwagons;)!! I totally get what you’re saying. I was just trying to add some parity to the bandwagon statement/argument in that, I think we are all here to learn from one another and Nikki definitely has an elevated status. So, it’s like Rhonda said below, she’s the Oprah of natural hair care. If she says it, everyone is on it. Now, the thing is, if you were cursing something to the high heaven before she embraced it and then, all of a sudden reverse your position because SHE said it was good, that is definitely being a bandwagoner. However, I think we can all say that we’ve tried things because of her recommendation or that of others. In fact, that’s why there are reviews because we want to know what others thought of something before we spend our hard earned money on them. I know that I try to read reviews for many things before deciding to purchase, at least costly things. The thing with Nikki, is that the value of her opinion is given a lot greater weight than someone about whom we don’t know as much or whose hair we may not “know” or admire. So, I’m not at all surprised that people are willing to try something once she co-signs it, especially people who are still trying to find what works best for their hair. In fact, I think that’s where many of us started. But, again, once you know what works, what doesn’t (and why, preferably), that’s when I think the ability to “screen” the bandwagons is developed and used. Until then, I think it’s really just trial and error.

              Wow, this is turning into one long conversation between the two of us, isn’t it;)?

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  2. Funny that you mention this…Me and mom just hit up Walmart last week for some old school Royal Crown!! lol I actually like it and it does wonders for my daughter’s dry curly hair.

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  3. I tried Dax for the first time since I was a kid last week and it definitely adds a nice sheen if used sparingly. I find shea butter leaves my hair looking dull (and I hate the smell) and alot of the overpriced ‘hair butters’ etc don’t do much for my fine, thin 3c/4a hair either. so yes, I am happy to return tiny amounts of grease to the regime. My mother (who went natural after me) has twice as much hair as I do in terms of length and thickness and she swears by Dr Miracle which seems to have mineral oil in it or petrolatum.

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    • I find the same thing with shea butter if used alone as a sealant GiGi. So now, I only use shea by emulsifying it in my palm a little, adding Eco styler olive oil gel and using it to smooth my edges (I tie down with a scarf for about 30 min. so it can dry). It’s the same principle again … flexible “moisturized” hold). I’ve used Dr. Miracle’s Nape Balm, but didn’t see much of a difference. I still have a little under my sink (I’m a bit of a product pack rat).

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  4. I think I will be giving it a try for the simple fact, that the ladies I have seen use it, have had such great results. But then again I might not because what works for everyone might not work for me. I don’t know. I ran out and got that tangle teazer or whatever crap and it did not detangle my hair at all,in fact it pulled it out. So I don’t know. My SO uses the Indian Hemp on his hair and it is so soft, so hmmmm. Can’t wait to hear your reviews.

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  5. I tried the Royal Crown after watching two of my favorite YouTubers give it a whirl prior to Curly Nikki’s outing. I wanted to see for myself if it would help me keep moisture in my hair for more than a day. At first I was leery because my mother used grease heavily on my hair and scalp as a child and it weighed my hair down. I believe it clogged my scalp and prevented growth for my hair. (My hair was never long growing up, although my sister’s hair was at mid-back length.) After trying the RC, I was very surprised at how soft, defined, and ‘sheeny’ it made my hair. I made sure not to apply on my scalp, and to layer a very creamy moisturizing leave-in underneath. My hair actually felt silky in certain areas of my hair. I had the best hair days since going natural with the grease. I kid you not. Everyone around me noticed how great my hair looked.

    I don’t really see this as a bandwagon because its been around so long. My entire family always used grease, including my father, my grandparents and my husband. It wasn’t until I became natural and started reading natural hair blogs that I became aware grease was considered a “no no” product. Yet for many, many people outside of this natural hair world, it’s always been there. I think some naturals are just coming to realize that this “no no” may present an additional inexpensive option, aside from natural butters, that may work better for them if used properly.

    I don’t mind re-introducing this in my haircare now that I know how to use it properly without stunting the amazing growth I’ve had since going natural. I plan on rotating it in my winter regimen with a natural buttercream I just fell in love with. I love that I can get this at my local drugstore because I hate paying shipping costs!

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    • Great comment Viv!!! I think I’m going to need you to send me a step by step tutorial (with pics of the finished “product,” of course) on how you used it, so that I can share it with everyone:)!!

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    • It keeps them slick Terysa? Because, although the shea/eco mix works okay, it seems to wear off pretty quickly for me and my little hairs start popping back up after a couple of hours.

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      • To slick your edges have you tried Aloe Vera Gel followed by Jane Carter’s Nourish and Shine? People SWARE I have a relaxer my edges are so straight. Just a suggestion but don’t take my word for it!

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      • Oh yes, its the only thing that I’ve tried that actually works for me. My husband uses it in his hair and gets really deep waves with it. I was out of gel and my hair was sticking up in the front like a kindergartner after recess, I tried it and haven’t looked back. I like that its not greasy so it looks natural and you don’t have to use much because it’s really thick – maybe once or twice every two weeks, if that. I still use gel on the front every now and then but the edges stay down for a few days. I haven’t used Dax before but I’m sure it works the same.

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      • Oops, my replies are backwards. Michelle, I haven’t heard of that gel before. I live where the AA population is probaby about 0.00001% lol, and our walmart just got an ‘ethnic section’ that includes relaxers and s-curl juice. But I’ll definitely look it up.

        My sister also found something that makes your edges really slick too, I forgot the name of it but it contains mineral oil and lanolin. I was preggers and the time when she showed me and couldn’t take the smell. But I may have to revisit.

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  6. Shelli another great post! I have resisted returning to “grease”. I did hit up Sally’s as I wanted to get a first hand look at a jar of Dax. LOL – I am probably the only person on the planet who had never heard of the product. Ironically there was only one jar on the shelf which felt “light”. When I unscrewed the lid, I noticed that someone had taken a liberal scoop out of the jar. Yikes! I thought, must be some “curly” doing marketing research for a product review — lol. It happens….

    The lady at counter told me that they had a run on Dax over the past two weeks and the product was on back order. Dax? Really? I found the entire scenario to be hilarious. Nik, has turned into “Oprah”! She mentions it and within hours, the product sells out!

    All this to say — that I dont have any current plans to return to the “grease”. But, I have no issues with those that do. I do thank you Shelli for an alternative suggestion using the CDHHB. Now, that’s one product I did race out and purchase. If only I can find the gel that you mentioned I will be well on my way.

    ~Rhonda C

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    • WOW!!! That is freakin’ CRAZY!! You hit the nail on the head Rhonda!!! Nikki is the Oprah of the natural hair community!! There may be more than one Oprah though;).

      As to the gels, which one are you trying to get? Maybe I can point you in the right direction?

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    • LMAO! the same exact thing happened when I went to buy my Tangle Teezer (around the time she started using it)! Mine was the last one in the store… In RURAL ALABAMA! hilarious

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  8. forget grease. went out and bought pure mineral oil and petroleum. i’m just tired of the all natural, pure organic bandwagon where i have to ship products in and pay so much for so little. when i started the hair journey, i thought everything that was done to my hair back then was obviously wrong since my hair was so short and broken. i attributed the damage, in part, to the products used back then. i had an open mind and obviously, an open wallet. these natural, organic products work, but i’ve realized that they’re not the only things that will work. i can go back to the regular stuff, if i know how to use them correctly.

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    • That’s really smart Misha and what you say about it not being the products per se but knowing how to use and what to use correctly that makes the difference in one’s hair is SO true! I lost track of your site ever since you changed the format, but I have it bookmarked to my favorites now. So, I’ll have to catch up on your posts soon! Hope all is well!

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  9. Shelli,

    The gels you mentioned were “Samy’s Get Curls, La Bella Lots of Curls or Jamaican Mango & Lime Lock Gel (it’s an orange color and like jello almost)”. Where can I score any one of these? Do you have a favorite from those listed?

    ~Rhonda C

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    • So, Samy’s I can usually find in grocery stores like ShopRite and convenience stores like CVS and/or Walgreen’s. LaBella Lotsa Curls can be hard to find, but I still see it every now and again at Walmart. Make sure if you see LaBella there that you get Lotsa Curls. They have several other gels and you don’t want any other from their line. Jamaican Mango & Lime line you can usually find at Beauty Supply Stores that cater to an “ethnic” clientele as it is often used for locs. You want the regular formula if you get this, not the resistant hair formula. Hope you’re able to find one. I don’t really have a preference other than liking how cheap LaBella Lotsa Curls is for the massive amount that you get!! Jamaican Mango & Lime is only about $4, but you get a lot less product.

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  10. Ok I am not even going to front…I saw that Nikki post and did a drive by at the BSS…but I didn’t purchase…over the last few months I have found a regimen that really works for me and I have fallen in LOVE with the Doris New York Olive Oil Hair Cream, it keeps my hair soft, shiny, & supple without the ‘weighed down’ feeling that hair ‘grease’ gave me. I also love my modified version of the Kimmaytube leave in for sheen and moisture. I definitely think that you should do what works for you and the only way to know what works is to try different products (Etoile justifies her PJism…lol)!

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  11. I’m not anti hair grease, b/c my mama used it on my hair as a child & I had long/strong hair. On a frizzy day, when coconut/olive oil doesn’t seem to work, I’ve been known to smooth things out with a smear of grease. (I didn’t throw mine away during my transition) But I’m not pro grease either. It’s not a staple product & I have no intentions of making it part of my routine.

    I bet most ppl have a jar or 2 at the house… they were just greasing on the low, until CN & the natural hair celebs came out of the closet! LOL

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    • LOL!!! Greasing on the DL … I definitely think that is true given the comments on the original thread! LOL!! I actually haven’t bought grease in so long … I use my EO mix on my scalp and various oils (though mainly JBCO) on my length. I’m still not sure how/if I’ll use this! It may become the grease under MY sink! I did a WnG yesterday. I guess I could try finger combing and doing a dry twist out with it, just for you guys;). I’ll just bun it if it doesn’t work out, but I’m willing to be a guinea pig for all of you;).

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